tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post7049717389526814702..comments2023-06-23T06:13:17.077-04:00Comments on Seasons of Learning: Wilson Reading System vs. Barton Reading & Spelling*~ Tina ~*http://www.blogger.com/profile/00282475310186210558noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-77646696536811368672014-11-16T06:05:42.986-05:002014-11-16T06:05:42.986-05:00Why do you not teach your son phonics? The lack o...Why do you not teach your son phonics? The lack of this is why he cannot read nonsense words. Phonics is not a teaching method, it is the information we need to read English.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-57326858658309443562013-11-11T22:18:14.777-05:002013-11-11T22:18:14.777-05:00If you want to really get some students involved w...If you want to really get some students involved who are into technology, then try Susan Barton's levels on the IPAD. Cost is about $31, over and above buying the kit, but I've gone just about exclusively to the app version. I am seeing increased self esteem by Level III. Brenda McCraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-48180889877854978452013-08-17T10:47:28.463-04:002013-08-17T10:47:28.463-04:00Thank you for your post. I have a few questions......Thank you for your post. I have a few questions... My son was recently diagnosed with what the therapist called "phonological dysgraphia." He is 8 years old and just entering the 3rd grade. Here's where it gets odd... he reads at an almost 5th grade level and his reading comprehension is at that same level. I tested him because the gap between his writing and verbal expression was so wide. He still reverses letters and his spelling is terrible. The therapist recommended tutoring for several ours a week in the Wilson system....at $100 per week. When she tested him, his IQ was very high, but she said his phonemic awareness was low. He could read words on grade levels high above his own, but struggled with nonsense words where he needed to sound them out to pronounce them correctly. So, my questions after hours of research by me and bugging all of my homeschooling friends to death, are these: 1. Can I teach Wilson by just watching the included instructional DVDs? My friends say it makes no sense to them and they could never teach it. 2. Would you even recommend these programs for my son?<br /><br />I'm freaking out a little (as you can probably tell) because I'm not sure what road to take. I enjoy teaching him and want to continue to do that, but I'm not sure (based on comments from friends that are having their kids tutored in Wilson) that I can teach it to him myself.<br /><br />Thanks for any help you can give me!<br />Rhonda Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06838023102569609978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-57902461086778549652013-04-05T01:14:33.217-04:002013-04-05T01:14:33.217-04:00Thanks for the review. I wanted to leave a comme...Thanks for the review. I wanted to leave a comment on the multi-syllable approach in book three of Wilson. The program teaches a syllable type and then moves to multisyllabic words using that syllable type. Then a new syllable type is taught (single syllable) and that is incorporated with the previous syllable type taught to make multi-syllabic words. This process continues until all six syllable types are taught. It has been my experience (I am a Level One Certified Wilson Reading Instructor), that students get a big ego boost when they get to book three (deals with multi-syllabic words - closed syllable). They are decoding large words (which is important to hem) and can usually help typical peers in the gen. ed. classroom decode words pretty efficiently very early into the program. This ego boost is so imperative for struggling readers because they have experienced so much distress over reading. I sometimes have thought that it takes too long to get to all six syllable types in the Wilson program, but I have come to understand that introducing one syllable type at a time and allowing students to acquire that new information in conjunction with previously learned syllable types is imperative. This was a great topic. Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-67134065540744011672012-01-26T23:06:00.141-05:002012-01-26T23:06:00.141-05:00The initial review stated that Barton jumps into s...The initial review stated that Barton jumps into syllable division while simultaneously introducing syllable types. That is exactly what should be done in Orton-Gillingham-based reading systems (which is what Barton is). The purpose of teaching syllable types is to learn vowel sounds within a syllable, because syllable type determines vowel sound. The purpose of learning the syllable types is to not only be able to decode one-syllable words of various syllable types, but also to decode multi-syllable words containing any of the various syllable types. But as a Barton user and an Orton-Gillingham trained teacher, I must comment that the Barton system ONLY introduces three syllable types (open, closed, and unit) before beginning the basic syllable division rules. There are six basic syllable types, so that leaves 3 types that aren't even introduced at the point syllable division begins. By the time the Barton system introduces syllable division, 3 syll. types have been taught, so I don't see a problem beginning dividing words into syllables. Besides, one of the major tenets of the Barton system or any other O-G system is not to proceed faster than the student is mastering concepts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-55809186300489014522011-12-13T19:37:27.818-05:002011-12-13T19:37:27.818-05:00I used the first 3 levels of Barton while homescho...I used the first 3 levels of Barton while homeschooling. My son didn't know how to read at all after Kindergarten and I used this method exclusively. Although it is very good, I don't think it contains nearly enough reading practice and the extra sheets you can print off are boring and tedious for a young child. It is difficult, because we are told you must use controlled text. But the controlled textbooks don't come until later (end of level 2? I can't remember now....) and when you do start them, they are not that fun. At least my son was not thrilled with them. Could just be him. :) I really think it is less about the method and more about the environment. I don't think it's possible for one mother to force the amount of practice necessary on a child with a profound reading/language disability. He is in school now and there is a whole team of people helping him. He has his teacher, after school help, a reading group, a reading tutor, a speech therapist, and a RTI teacher working with him. The amount of practice they can squeeze out of him there is so much more than I could at home. The problem is, they don't do nearly enough phonics instruction. They mostly are reviewing stuff he already learned but now he's actually remembering it and using it. Not controlled text, though, and I worry about him guessing and forgetting so much of the phonics he learned. I think that ideally, he needs a program like Barton WHILE being immersed in reading at school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-83087842473428771942011-07-12T09:38:01.867-04:002011-07-12T09:38:01.867-04:00All About Spelling and Wilson Reading System are t...All About Spelling and Wilson Reading System are two different programs.*~ Tina ~*https://www.blogger.com/profile/00282475310186210558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-1323218834722699022011-06-14T12:01:58.107-04:002011-06-14T12:01:58.107-04:00I have been researching AAS as an affordable repla...I have been researching AAS as an affordable replacement for Barton. We have been getting Barton through our local University interlibrary loan and my daughter is starting on Level 4. I have been really pleased with the program and her progress. Unfortunately I may not be able to get it throught library and haven't convinced the education department that they should have a set on hand for their education students ;o). That would solve all my problems. REAL QUESTIONS, 1) Are the programs similar enough to switch at this time? We really like the wooden tiles and I need the instruction for teaching. 2) Is All About Spelling the same program as the Wilson in previous posts or is it yet another OG program?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-8293297870013066212010-06-18T00:18:56.532-04:002010-06-18T00:18:56.532-04:00Hi, thank you for sharing your thoughts on these. ...Hi, thank you for sharing your thoughts on these. Would you write a review of how All About Spelling was similar or different to these two programs as well?Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12630377483536827271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4747604084302788304.post-40775712440647594522010-05-28T01:03:30.643-04:002010-05-28T01:03:30.643-04:00Tina,
I'm not looking for a new reading progra...Tina,<br />I'm not looking for a new reading program, but what a nice review to help others out who are thinking of these programs. I know you put a lot of time into this. :)<br /><br />I've added my e-mail to my profile in case you need to get in touch with me.<br /><br />Is everyone still enjoying the turtle? :)Trishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612716398097555419noreply@blogger.com